Hacking the Current Cost ENVI: Multiple Transmitters

by Moderator [Steven] 21. April 2010 23:30

The Current Cost ENVI Wireless Energy Monitor was designed to have add-on “Individual Appliance Monitors” with a concept of monitoring various appliances around the home, however these IAMS have never materialised.

However, after another session of hacking into mechanics of the ENVI today, I has pleasantly surprised to discover that you can pair 1 to 9 standard Current Cost transmitters, you know the one that comes with the ENVI.WattsClever-Transmitter2

This means that with one additional transmitter you can instantly add monitoring for three additional appliances, although you would need to break out a phase to clamp the sensor around.  (you may need to check if you are permitted to do this)

Alternatively, you could build a number of replacement sensors to detect values of your choosing.

I’ll have more on this subject as time permits, if you rate this post then it may inspire me that you are interested!

Notes:

How the ENVI system works:

The first transmitter connected to the ENVI can be considered as the whole of premises sensor, normally connected to your meter in a single or three phase installation. each sensor clamp represent 1 phase of the electricity supply. When you pair additional transmitters (1 to 9) you get three additional sensors per transmitter.  The important point here is that the values coming from the additional transmitters is NOT totalled on the LCD display but are available individually by pressing the up or down buttons. In regards to the data extract from the LCD display each transmitter and channel (3) is available in the live readings. i.e. sensor 0 channel 1, channel 2, channel 3 – sensor 9 channel 1, channel 2 and channel 3. This potentially allows you to monitor the main circuit (total consumption) and up to 27 individual appliances.

While the LCD will only display values as watts, your software can of course convert any custom sensors values to anything you can measure.

While this opens the door to a wider range of applications, please note that there may be issues that need to be addressed with you electrician before putting this concept into practice. We would suggest that while the transmitter is fitted with a current sensor, it may be possible to design other types of sensor that will read say light (LUMINS), Wind Speed, Battery Condition etc.

While TechnicaOne has a few individual transmitters available, they are not normally sold separately but we would release a few for experimenters'

 

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Comments (9) -

16 May 2010 5:40 PM #

Andrew S

Craig, did I read your post correctly in saying that I can add extra sensors to my display unit and it will display each sensor as a separate set of values (using the up / down scroll)?

I have a solar system and am interested to monitor the solar output but also my overall consumption using a single display unit.

What "hacking" is required to get this to work?

Andrew S

16 May 2010 8:58 PM #

Moderator

Hi Andrew
You read correctly, you can connect 1 to 9 additional standard transmitter to the Envi. There is no special changes to get this to work, The result is that you can monitor additional single or three phase circuits which each transmitter connected. I mention hacking in the post because 1. it probably is not designed to offer this added feature and some customers may wish to hack the transmitter to use sensors other than the clamp sensor, i.e. to read a voltage, such as a temp sensor which converts temperature to a linear voltage an so on.

With the added tranmitter/s the LCD display will show the total watts for 1 to 3 clamps, however the XML will dump each additional sensor as part of the live reading.

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18 May 2010 3:32 AM #

Tony Fenn

Andrew

How do you sync the multiple transmitters to the 1 Envi display. Buttons to press?  We are using multiple Envis and www.saveenergi.com to monitor a green school in the USA. The large building has each of 3 phases broken out and then in two sets (ie. 6 cables) and it would be great to get all the data through 1 Envi rather than 2.

Thanks for you help and great posting.

Tony Fenn

18 May 2010 9:08 AM #

Moderator

Hi Tony
The procedure is the same as pairing the main transmitter with the Envi except that you use the down key to select the additional channel that you wish to connect to i.e. 1 to 9 by using the up or down key. if you want to connect a transmitter to appliance 1 then scroll press the up or down key "Appliance 1" is displayed. Then press and hold the down key and you should see the monitor in paring mode. Then just press the small button on the transmitter as you would normally do when pairing the units.


We are also doing this for schools in Australia.

Cheers

Craig

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27 May 2010 3:01 PM #

Andrew S

Craig, I picked up an extra sensor from a local shop but it does not come with a transmitter. I assume I would need a second transmitter to provide seperate data for each sensor.  Do you sell transmitters for the Watts Clever that I bought?

Cheers Andrew

Andrew S

11 June 2010 5:25 AM #

Tony Fenn

Craig

Thanks so much we installed 2 x 3 channel transmitters to monitor parallel feeds to a main distribution panel and then summed all 6 channels in our scanner interface to totalize the building.  We are typically seeing base loads in this one large building of 200 kwh and peaks up to 350 kwh.  See the school live at http://www.makehistori.net/power2.htm?tori=3280 (To see the page, please install MS Silverlight which is like Flash)

The school electrician is going to conduct an audit of the biggest loads around the building using an Envi and our real time charts. Should be fun.

I have another question for you... We are going to install more xmtrs around the school, so have you ever synched the full 10 xmtrs to 1 Envi?  If so any cross talk issues?  


Can you share what you are doing monitoring a school.

Cheers - Tony  www.saveenergi.com

Tony Fenn

11 June 2010 5:28 AM #

Tony Fenn

Craig

(Sorry if this posted twice - wasnt sure it saved OK)

Thanks so much we installed 2 x 3 channel transmitters to monitor parallel feeds to a main distribution panel and then summed all 6 channels in our scanner interface to totalize the building.  We are typically seeing base loads in this one large building of 200 kwh and peaks up to 350 kwh.  See the school live at http://www.makehistori.net/power2.htm?tori=3280 (To see the page, please install MS Silverlight which is like Flash)

The school electrician is going to conduct an audit of the biggest loads around the building using an Envi and our real time charts. Should be fun.

I have another question for you... We are going to install more xmtrs around the school, so have you ever synched the full 10 xmtrs to 1 Envi?  If so any cross talk issues?  


Can you share what you are doing monitoring a school.

Cheers - Tony  www.saveenergi.com

Tony Fenn

19 June 2010 7:42 PM #

Andrew S

Craig, my monitor arrived this week (via my sister) so have been able to play around with it.  I have a second sensor clamp and can monitor 2 feeds ok but can only see the seperate readings via software as you know the display unit sums these sensors toegther (assuming they are multiple phases). You mentioned you have some transmitters avaailable. I would be interested to try my unit with two transmitters one for my import and the other for my export.
Do you have any more left?
Cheers Andrew S

Andrew S

25 July 2010 7:07 AM #

Moderator

Tony and Andrew - My apologies that I did not see your comments due to a problem with this blog site, however I have sent replies to you both via email.

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